Rhyme.science accent-aware rhyming dictionary

Rhyme.Science Improvements => Suggestions => Topic started by: Angela on October 22, 2016, 01:20:08 pm

Title: New accent parameters
Post by: Angela on October 22, 2016, 01:20:08 pm
Here's a list of the accent parameters (the options you get when searching for rhymes, such as rhoticity and Father-Bother) I currently plan on adding. Reply to let me know if there are any others you'd like, or if you'd find some of these more useful than others, so I can prioritise the work. I'll keep this list up-to-date with any that are planned, in progress, or finished.

Title: Re: New accent parameters
Post by: mtgordon on October 29, 2016, 07:34:41 pm
Panda/pander merger. In my experience, it correlates strongly with non-rhoticity (So that's where the r went! They tacked it on at the end of the word!), but it's apparently not a perfect correlation, otherwise I'd propose merging it into the existing rhoticity setting.

Once in a sandwich shop in Cambridge, Massachusetts, I heard a customer order a "lodge tuner." I suppose he wanted to tune his lodge. At Logan Airport in Boston one frequently hears overhead pages involving "Delter Aihlines."
Title: Re: New accent parameters
Post by: Angela on October 29, 2016, 08:27:40 pm
Panda/pander merger. In my experience, it correlates strongly with non-rhoticity (So that's where the r went! They tacked it on at the end of the word!), but it's apparently not a perfect correlation, otherwise I'd propose merging it into the existing rhoticity setting.
The current non-rhotic setting does include pander as a rhyme for panda. To have this as a separate thing there could be either a separate panda/pander parameter, or one or two extra Rhoticity settings ('non-rhotic except for panda/pander', and 'rhotic except for panda/pander'.)

Once in a sandwich shop in Cambridge, Massachusetts, I heard a customer order a "lodge tuner." I suppose he wanted to tune his lodge. At Logan Airport in Boston one frequently hears overhead pages involving "Delter Aihlines."

Delter Aihlines is non-rhotic with an intrusive R (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R), and I suppose the same is true of 'lodge tuner' (with bonus father-bother merger) as well, though I'm not sure if it's called an intrusive R if there's nothing after it. I used to be amused by the 'alleluia ralleluia' while people were singing hymns in New Zealand.

I could perhaps add a setting for intrusive Rs, but I'm still trying to figure out what to do with the R that appears in the pronunciation of panda (or some other word ending in a vowel) when it is followed by an R word (which gives 'panda' two pronunciations, with the same rhymes all up but the rhoticity setting switched.)
Title: Re: New accent parameters
Post by: mtgordon on October 29, 2016, 11:08:06 pm
Come to think, I suppose there are two distinct forms of panda/pander merger: merely non-rhotic (both sound to me like panda), and intrusive R, whether rhotic or not (both sound to me like pander). It's just that intrusive R is, in my experience, typically associated with non-rhotic accents.